Keeney PP19000 Solid Fiberglass Shower Grab Bar Backer and Mounting Kit for Bathtub Safety, White
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Rather than use a two-inch hole, I chose not to, but it would have been more convenient in many It is possible for the bolt to go through the plastic post in an angle that is not perpendicular to the surface of the wall unit (which is often curved) or even the stud in which the clearance hole is drilled. A consideration I did not have to contend with was you may not drill your shower wall unit hole exactly in the middle of your stud you are mounting to, which means drilling a larger hole will allow you to better align your lag screw clearance hole on The reason I did not encounter this problem was because I opened up the wall behind the shower unit I installed in and placed short stud blocks nearby (glued and screwed, solid as a rock) so I could hit solid wood without a problem. This was necessary for me as the studs behind my wall weren't aligned in a way that would allow a grab bar to fit between them. The first option is as follows It has a small hole that has a few pros. As is, I didn't make a hole big enough in the shower wall for the shaft attached to the plastic post to fit through the hole I made in the shower wall. So that the nut on the back of the plate can rest on the wall of the shower, this is done. In addition, this is located at the farthest point of the length of the lever arm for the plastic post and lag screw, which adds rigidity. A rigid set up such as this will prevent failure over time from fatiguing the user's body. The cons include *br>It is very hard to get everything centered in the first hole that you punch in the wall of the shower unit. If you can get the outer plastic plate/nut to rest on the bottom of the small hole when it is tightened, then the small hole can prove valuable. In 35 years of woodworking, as well as being a mechanical engineer, I have all the tools necessary for precision work like this. I had to sand one of the plastic posts three times and five times the other before I got these to hold in place in such a small The second option is rather difficult. A larger hole offers the following advantages
Easier to get the stud in dead center on the shower wall, align the grab bar mount's centers perpendicular to the shower wall, and adjust for the distance between centers on In the situation where the outer plate/nut is shifted off the center of the shower wall hole, 2" is the maximum hole it can cover. Then again, even something that is less than two inches can still be useful. You may have to enlarge the hole if it does not align how you want it to. (to avoid scratching the wall), a mask (to catch fiberglass dust) and so forth *Cons There might be a weak spot if the "nut" cannot rest on the wall, but this is still in line with the manufacturer's installation instructions, so you should be fine (especially if you have to shorten the lever and plastic post). The important thing to remember when mounting the grab bar plate on the plastic plate is to use the screws only once and only once into the plastic and fiberglass. Then cut (drill) once after measuring twice, trying twice. The bolts that attach your grab bars to the shower wall will be weakened if you back them out. The lever arm on your grab bar will be weakened as well. Consider also the fact that my grab bar mounting plates were smaller than the plastic plates. Therefore, I had to sand them down to cover the plastic plates with the beauty rings from the grab bar. It would be best if you used a hole smaller than two inches if you have to do this also. ...and here I am writing a book. I was not planning that. I used this when I added grab bars to my dad's shower, and that was everything I thought about. wish you the best of luck with your installation.
It seems like I followed your lead. I did the same thing with the silver washer looking spacer. In order to get the spacer, I took the screws and "shoulder" pieces to the hardware store (Menards) and found a thick washer that fit around the screw head as well as the backside of the shoulder so that it could fit into the hole It just rides on the screw while you are "unscrewing" it, so I got extras of those and am glad I did since I had to do it twice. The reason I did that was to get a better hold on the stud. The masking tape only made it wobbly, instead of snug, when used to hold the two pieces in place. Wishing you the best of luck!
That's kind of a long one. AT LEAST HALF OF it needed to be trimmed down, as the edges were curved.
It is true, but I installed a grab bar using it in my parents' shower 6 months ago, and it felt very sturdy. Every time my Dad showers he uses that towel and it has held up fine. In theory, you could do it with a 2" or 2-inch towel, but I'd recommend the towel. Using a piece of wood 1/2 inch in diameter and the correct length, a countersunk lag screw, and the hardware that came with the grab bar, you can install this. You can probably do it just as well and easier as well.
Selected User Reviews For Keeney PP19000 Solid Fiberglass Shower Grab Bar Backer and Mounting Kit for Bathtub Safety, White
The three of them are now installed in my in-house fitness room Showers with a fiberglass surround are typically called law's showers. As the 4th anchor hole, however, did not sit over a stud, I had to use a Moen SecureMount anchor (which also worked perfectly). Often, difficulty with the installation of these units has less to do with the product itself, but more with not knowing what was behind the fiberglass (how good is What is the degree of plumbness of the studs? What is below the top of the shower studs matched with the studs above the You can also explain this in terms of the following) In reality, if you follow the directions and drill a 2" hole, then you can actually offset the bolt 3/8" any direction the center point is, and the 'paddle' will still cover the hole, so you have a little wiggle room to work with. Besides finding the stud, the next most important part of the installation is ensuring the pilot hole for the bolt is parallel to the face of the In this way, when you tighten down the 'paddle' it will leave little to no room for One thing I would like to point out about the product is that my first bolt screwed into a stud sheered off even before it was fully tightened. The hardware store I went to had replacement bolts so I could complete the installation. have just started a new hold to the side of the sheered bolt (see the comment above about 3/8").
At the end of the day, the grab bars were very secure and didn't move.
I had a comedy of errors with this install. Because fiberglass showers have a tendency to be finicky, installing it is a little difficult. There's just nothing straight and solid about them. In addition, this product has to be very precise. Due to the setting where these screws are installed, I would have loved to have been included with extra screws for the mounting. It fell down the drain twice for me! If you choose to screw it in, be sure to have a tight grip on the lag bolt. In my haste to get the screw into the stud the bolt slipped out of its driver, and the screw fell between the shower and the opposite wall of the stud! It is quite apparent that I screwed up the installation already, and I would advise you to invest in some good marine epoxy to fill in any holes Once that is done, the mount is as good as new (so you can make some.
I found this method to be effective It only presents a problem, if the lag bolt is not screwed in perfectly perpendicular to the fiberglass surround and if the surround is not solidly connected to the wall, then the plastic caps will not be flush with the surround once they're installed. After that, you have to use caulk to fill in any gaps, which is not very attractive.
Many hoping to install safety grab bars in one go would find this extremely useful. It makes a lot of sense to use this product for showers and tubs. In fiberglass units, the studs are usually installed on bar studs and there is often some space between the stud and the surface of the shower walls. The fiberglass shell has to be more than just an anchor point for grab bars in order to be secure. With the Keeny PP 19000, the gap between the stud and fiberglass wall is filled in. In spite of the installation's requirements, there are some things to consider. When you drill the holes in the fiberglass to fit the Keeny product, you will not actually be able to obtain the intended benefit of securing the bar to studs unless you identify the exact center of the studs before drilling. SO BE.
Essentially, this product does what it is supposed to do. A fiberglass shower is equipped with a safety grab bar that can be installed securely. The margin for error is very slim, so you should take your measurements very If you want to reach the stud behind the fiberglass shower enclosure, you will probably have to use a longer drill bit than usual (both 3/16 and 1/8). Some improvements that they might be able to make to this product would improve it It is difficult to read the directions because they are printed on a small sheet. My grab bars had large slots, so I had to add washers to the screws that attach them to the plastic disc, as the heads of those screws are small and the slots in my grab bars were fairly big. My overall rating for this product is 5 stars.
These were purchased to fix the grab bars in my parents' shower after they experienced medical issues. There was a gap behind the shower wall and we needed to bridge this by getting something to grab the 2x4 behind the shower wall and make sure it wasn't going to fall. Upon installation, read over the other reviews to make sure the device is compatible with your computer. The bar does create a large hole in the wall of the shower, but there is plenty of material to cover that hole, and the importance of a strong/stable bar outweighs its look-- In this case, the plastic disc is totally covering it. The white disc will be covered by your shower bar cover if it has a large cover plate. The one we had didn't, but it's okay. The money is well spent.
What an amazing find! I can't believe how lucky I was to find them! I used them for installing grab bars on a shower insert because it was the only way to install grab bars securely. They are pricey, but the problem is solved. The studs can be hard to locate and the hole in the center of the studs can be a challenge to cut. time to measure and don't forget to do so often.
This grab bar handle seemed to provide what I was seeking while researching solid mount grab bars for showers. Mount assembly to stud is secured by 3 small self tap screws, but the grab bar is attached by only one 3/16" thick mounting plate set in place by a 5/16" X 4" lag screw (great). It sounds like it might not be very sturdy. "WARNING ONCE SCREWS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED, DO NOT REMOVE THEM AND INSERT THEM INTO THE SAME HOLES. " is written in red on the instructions. Please forgive me for the expensive fasteners I purchased!.
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