CAMO Edge Clip Hidden Deck Fasteners (450 ct)
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The total length of the screws is 2. 1/4". With a minimum groove height of 1/4" (from the bottom of the board), the screw will go about 1" into the board. The depth is 3/4". A 1" penetration is achieved with a 3/8" groove height. A penetration of 1" will be achieved by using a 5/8" groove height and a 1/2" groove height. 1/2"
Yes, any grooved decking should work with them. I've also used them to make grooves in square-sided decking using my router. They will, however, work if you are building perpendicular to the joists, but not if you are building diagonally.
Yes. T15 star drive bits are included in the 450 ct EdgeClips.
Selected User Reviews For CAMO Edge Clip Hidden Deck Fasteners (450 ct)
And it's rare that you get more than you bargained for. I don't usually respond to requests for product reviews, but when you get exactly what you expected and more, you owe it to everyone to let them know. I had to take the time because I was so impressed with the CAMO Edge Clip Hidden Deck Fasteners I purchased. br>br>I have previously built decks and have used nails, screws, plastic, and metal deck board fasteners. They're all difficult to set up properly, which can be frustrating and time-consuming, with the end result being loose boards and spacing that aren't always consistent. br>br>These CAMO Edge Clip Hidden Deck Fasteners are well engineered, simple to use, and produce superior results than anything else I've ever used. These guys have given it a lot of thought. They created the fastener assembly in such a way that it glides over the joist with ease, instantly aligning the deck board. They include a 12 screw driver bit as well as a plastic spacer / screw guide, which ensures consistent board spacing, prevents stripping out the screw head or drive, and prevents overdriving when setting screws. br>br>Only a few dollars more ($0. 02) compared to plastic or metal fasteners, but the ease of installation, consistent professional results, and time savings are well worth the small additional cost.
These new decking fasteners, in my opinion, are a quantum leap ahead of what was previously available. It's amazing how simple they are to put into practice. However, I do have a couple of gripes. They give you multiple bits at first because they go bad quickly, and then you strip out the screw head. They should use a thicker piece of metal to construct the bed. Second, the wings that hold both of the boards in place aren't very long. For the sake of security, I wish they were a little longer to ensure that everything was secured. When it comes to sewing a seam, the instructions are a little odd. You should use two fasteners, according to them. That means you'll need to install a second piece of wood underneath, close enough to the first but far enough away to allow both fasteners to be inserted. They made the job a lot easier than the first generation of fasteners, in my opinion. Also, the use of the yellow plastic guide is fantastic.
Until you need to attach two 2x6 or 2x8 support boards, that is. Afterwards, best wishes! Because the fastener's clip wings are only wide enough for one support board (and the actual metal clip is so narrow that it can't be used alone to fasten two adjoining board ends), you'll have to break them off and hope the fastener stays in place while you secure it. It is a difficult task! The Fiburon and Trek fasteners are much better in this situation, because the fastener is much wider where it holds the board down (Fiburon even includes some wider fasteners in their packaging specifically for adjoining deck boards), and you aren't forced to break off the clip wings if butt joining boards (needing two CAMO's to do this), or attaching the decking to a doubled 2x6 or 2x8 support. CAMO really needs to come up with a which I had to do on a number of occasions!.
The wood is three times harder than a baseball bat and extremely difficult to straighten, making this a difficult deck to lay. The video wasn't very useful. The tabs on both sides are half the size of my little fingernail, which is significantly smaller than competing products. Is there any reason for this? Because all of our problems stemmed from an overabundance of information, tabs of a small size To begin with, when laying out the wood, they do not stay in place. An 18'- At 16" oc, the 0" board has fourteen clips. Not once did all of the clips stay in place as we pressed the boards together; one or more would fall out, ripping the boards apart; and, second, the clips CANNOT BRIDGE A SEEAM! With a tab the size of an aspirin, how can three boards be fastened together? One cannot, and they were docked two stars solely because of this design flaw. If you already own these clips, you can save money by cutting off the plastic horseshoe tabs and using two clips on a single joist; you'll thank me later. The video of installers laying out an entire deck before screwing it down is a hoax, and it assumes laser-straight wood or plastic. Currently, the CAMO hidden deck system is superior. br>br>Update for 4/21: After just one winter, 15 screws were snapped in half, and the boards began to lift. Have you ever heard of a deck screw shattering in half? I don't think so. The thin threaded coat, on the other hand- One by one, the hanger wire does its job. It was a callback disaster.
I wish I had started doing these sooner. The manufacturer's hidden fasteners were used to install five composite deck boards. After breaking a few of them, I ditched them all in favor of the CAMO. br>Even though they are more expensive, the quality and ease of installation for hidden fasteners make them well worth the money. These will be my go-to screws for any future composite decks I build with hidden fasteners.
We used camo edge clips, camo edge screws with tool, and color coordinated screws for face screwing on a small deck project. We found that the edge clips were the easiest to use and that they produced the best results. It's worth noting that we weren't concerned about the installation time. We didn't lay out the entire deck at once, as Camo suggested, but instead did two or three boards at a time.
To repair the joists, it was necessary to remove the deck boards. It was originally put together with a different system in mind. I bought it after watching a youtube video about how well-thought-out it was. It's well-thought-out and gets the job done quickly. The clips that keep them attached to the joists are fantastic. I would strongly suggest it.
It gave me the exact clearance between boards that I needed. Trimming the clip's "wings" is simple - Installed 400 and had no issues with material quality. To be used in areas where joists are doubled, or on top of blocking, etc. I would highly recommend this product and plan to buy it again.
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